Real Clear Politics: S.E. CUPP: All right. In the CROSSFIRE tonight, Bill Nye, the Science Guy, is with the Planetary Society; and Nicolas Loris, an energy and environmentally -- environmental policy with the Heritage Foundation.
Bill, let me start with you. Even if what Van and the White House are saying is all true, the scare tactics have not worked.
BILL NYE, THE SCIENCE GUY: Before you go on --
CUPP: NO. Let me finish my question.
NYE: Let's talk about the facts. You're saying --
CUPP: No, let me finish...